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If you leave a comment on this blog entry, you will qualify for a free ebook copy of "A Peerless Peer." As I discussed in the last entry, Sparta differed significantly from other Greek cities with respect to it's laws against pederasty and attitudes toward women. In the following excerpts from "A Peerless Peer" I offer some alternative -- I believe far more plausible -- depictions of Spartan attitudes toward sex.
The first excerpt looks at reaching puberty in Sparta, starting with a helot mother's reflections and sliding into the views of a Spartan maiden and her grandmother:
Laodice
had lived in Laconia long enough to know that the sexually active youths of the
agoge considered helot girls “fair game.” Not that many of the youths of the
agoge would actually rape the girls (though it happened now and again); most
knew that using force against the helots working for another Spartiate could
get them into serious trouble. The fact that Laodice’s girls were Leonidas’
helots made the situation even clearer. It was well known that Leonidas would
not tolerate any abuse of his helots, and any youth who went too far would lose
his hide.
The
problem was that Laodice’s girls seemed to have picked up the Laconian attitude
toward these youths—namely, that it was an honor to be deflowered by a true
Spartiate. The neighbor girls candidly argued that there could be nothing
better than a Spartiate lover who paid you in game he had hunted or trapped, or
even made the girls pretty trinkets with rolled stones and carved figurines.
Their
mothers had nothing to say against the practice. It seemed they had all done it
in their youth, and could point proudly to this or that item that had been a
gift of this or that Spartiate—now respectable citizens with wives and children
and honors. So the mothers encouraged their daughters’ promiscuousness, saying
that it added to the family diet and income, while the girls themselves loved
being courted and bedded by the “golden” youth of the agoge.
The
smarter girls even built up a dowry from the gifts of their Spartiate lovers to
make them more attractive to their own class. To Laodice’s incomprehension, the
offspring of such unions carried no particular stigma. They were simply raised
like other helot children, either by the girl’s family or by the girl herself
after she married.
To
be sure, helot youths sometimes resented the deflowering of their future brides
by their masters if they already fancied a girl, but there wasn’t much they could
do to stop it. Mantiklos had gotten into a terrible fight because he caught the
girl he was courting with a meleirene. He’d attacked her in his rage, provoking
her brothers to come to her defense. Mantiklos had ended up with a broken nose,
several cracked ribs, and more simmering hatred toward the Spartiates than
ever. But Laodice knew that the more mercenary helot youths actively encouraged
their sweethearts to get as much material gain from their lovers as possible.
….
As the summer progressed, even the Eurotas shrank to a ghost of its normal self. With baskets of washing on their heads, the helot women had to cross the mud flats left behind on the riverbed as the water retreated. The mud clung to their legs and drew them deeper into the morass with each precarious step. When finished, they had to trudge back with the wet laundry on their heads, and sometimes women lost their balance in the treacherous quagmire, spilled their laundry, and had to start all over again.
For
the youths of the agoge, the low water meant they had to wade through the
stinking mud just to go for a swim at all—and then wade through the mud again
afterward, getting dirty and sweaty again. The boys therefore chopped down
trees and built a precarious walkway across the mud to the deeper parts of the
river; but this only led to fierce fights between gangs of boys defending the
bridge and those trying to take it. Generally they all ended up in the mud
flats on either side of the bridge, coated in mud like piglets.
Disgusted,
the teenage girls withdrew and found their own swimming hole farther
downstream. The currents of the river, flowing over the roots of some ancient
plane trees on a little island, had carved out a deep pool. The girls could
reach the island with dry feet, because the channel on the eastern shore had
dried up and the girls could leap across the narrow gully. The maidens stripped
down, hanging their chitons on the trees, and with squeals and giggles of
delight slipped into the cool water. They sank under the surface and let the
water sweep their long hair downstream, then popped up again to catch their
breath and wring the water from their hair. Their high-pitched chattering and
giggling seemed to carry for miles.
The
girls were soon discovered by some off-duty meleirenes, who didn’t bother with
the detour around the eastern shore and plunged right into the river, chasing
the girls back to their island and their clothes. It was a silly game, as far
as Gorgo could see. Disgusted with the brainless behavior of her friends, she
grabbed her things and fled.
One
of the meleirenes tried to cut her off at the gully, but she gave him a kick in
the direction of his groin that he just managed to deflect and told him
bluntly, “I’m not interested!” Her tone of voice was too decisive for him to
mistake it as flirting. He let her go.
Gorgo
ran barefoot across the floodplain, which was now starting to bake and crack,
and scrambled up the far bank, pulling herself up on dusty saplings. Only when
she reached the road did she untie her sandals from around her neck and put
them on her feet. She started tramping at a good marching pace in the direction
of her grandmother’s kleros.
When
she arrived half an hour later, the staff greeted her with exclamations of
dismay. She usually rode over, and today she looked much the worse for wear.
“Good heavens, girl! You look
like something the cat dragged in!” her grandmother’s old housekeeper exclaimed
with humor.
Gorgo
was reminded of the way her mother had always said that to her. She snapped
unkindly at the old helot woman, “Maybe I am something the cat dragged in! Leave me
alone!”
Overhearing
this remark as she arrived, Chilonis exclaimed sharply, “Gorgo! You’ve no right
to use that tone of voice to poor Irene! Apologize at once!”
Gorgo
was in no mood to apologize to anyone. “Why should I?” she retorted. “She says
I looked like something the cat dragged in, and all I said—”
“I
heard what you said! It’s not what you said but the way you said it! What on
earth has got into you? Apologize to Irene and then come with me.”
Gorgo
had been late to mature. At thirteen, many had mistaken her for a child of ten
or eleven. She had not started her monthly flux until this past spring, as she
turned fifteen, and her breasts were only just starting to develop. Chilonis
had therefore already diagnosed teenage moodiness and insolence, and she
doubted if there were much she could do but wait for Gorgo to grow out of this
unpleasant phase.
Gorgo
turned to the helot and said in an angry, uncontrite voice, “I’m sorry if I was
rude to you, but I don’t think it’s particularly nice to call someone
‘something the cat dragged in.’ I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if I said it to
you!”
The
woman opened her mouth, flabbergasted, and then looked at her mistress, who
sighed and said simply, “I’ll deal with her, Irene. You go back to your work.”
Chilonis
then led the way out of the kitchen to her own study and sat down to face the
now sullen Gorgo. “If you’re going to go around dressed like a boy of the
agoge, with your hair hanging unkempt about your shoulders and your feet
filthy, you deserve to be told what you look like.”
“Well,
what do you want me to do? Sit around combing out my hair and oiling my skin for
all the boys to see, like Nausica and Alkyone and Phaenna?”
Chilonis
noted that now Phaenna, Gorgo’s one and only friend, had apparently joined the
clique of girls who were taking a pronounced interest in the opposite sex. That
was normal. But she understood Gorgo, too.
Gorgo
plopped herself down on the bench by the door, her long, lovely legs thrust out
in front of her, but with her shoulders hunched and her head hanging as she
picked absently at her frayed belt, and complained, “The only
thing they can talk about is boys,
boys, boys—who’s won what race, who’s had to go down to the pits, who’s been caught
with some helot girl. It drives me crazy!”
“Um,”
Chilonis commented. It could indeed be tedious—but it was also biological and
inevitable. “Aren’t you interested in any of them?”
“The
meleirenes?” Gorgo asked, horrified. “A bunch of pimply little runts, whose
only interest in us is sex! And they don’t care which of us they get their
hands on, either!” Gorgo shot back.
Chilonis
laughed—because it was so true.
“I
don’t see what’s so funny!” Gorgo demanded, her green eyes flashing and her
lips thrust out in a stubborn pout. “You’re the one who always said a woman isn’t
just a bedmate or a breeding factory—not to use the language they
do!”
Chilonis
sighed. It wasn’t easy being fifteen.
In this second excerpt, Leonidas and a Corinthian youth Lycos, who has been partially crippled in an accident, discuss the difference in cultures after precipitously leaving an Athenian symposium.
They caused a small commotion when they
reached the ship, and at first the helmsman was angry. He insisted on sending a
crewman to tell Archilochos where his son was; but eventually the crew calmed down
and went back to sleep, while Leonidas and Lychos settled on the deck between
the steering oars. Leonidas accepted wine in his water, and they talked while
the stars turned slowly overhead.
Lycos asked, “Why aren’t you married?”
“I’m still on active service and have
to live in barracks,” Leonidas answered, hoping Lychos had not heard that many
Spartiates married anyway.
“That sounds horrible,” Lychos admitted
candidly.
Leonidas thought about it. “You’ll
laugh, but in a way it makes me enjoy the rest of life more.”
Lychos did laugh, but remarked, “Now,
perhaps, you understand about my pain! It is horrible, but it reminds me that I
am alive. And without it, if I were dead, I would not be sitting on this warm
deck with a cooling breeze and my first real friend beside me.”
“I’m honored. But what of Chambias?”
“Chambias?” Lychos looked up at the
stars. “Chambias has always been my friend because our fathers want it; but,
you see, tonight he would have been like the Athenians—”
“And Euryleon!” Leonidas snorted.
“Yes, and Euryleon. He would have
justified staying and drinking until he couldn’t walk in a straight line and
had to vomit in the street while slaves guided him home. That’s what they’re
all doing now, you know? They will drink until they can’t see straight or stand
upright, and then they will stagger home, feeling miserable but telling
themselves they are ‘real men.’ What does being pissing drunk have to do with manhood?
I don’t understand it.”
Leonidas didn’t understand it either,
so they were comfortably silent together until Lychos remarked, “When
Kallixenos was my lover, he often hurt me. He knew he was doing it, yet he did
it intentionally—just to see how far he could go, to test just how great my love
for him was.”
“Then Kallixenos is more than an ass,
he is a bastard.”
“He will be a very powerful bastard,”
Lychos reflected. “He is the kind of man who would be a tyrant if he could be.”
“You know that in Sparta the sexual misuse of a
child, male or female, is against our laws, don’t you?” Leonidas asked.
“And do all Spartans live by your
laws?”
“Of course not. There are as many cruel
and selfish men in Sparta as anywhere; but at least they have to do it in
secret and fear the scorn of their neighbors and officers if they are
discovered. If a child’s parents find out, for example, they can demand
terrible punishment.”
Lychos thought about that and nodded.
“You know, it sometimes seems as if you Spartans live your whole lives in fear
of your neighbors and officers. You have so little chance to be yourselves, for
better or for worse. You must all wear the same clothes. You even have to wear your hair and beards the same way! And
you must behave in set ways and follow the same profession.”
Leonidas thought about this carefully,
because there had been times when he had resented all these things; but he
asked back, “Is it really all that different in Corinth and Athens? Don’t
potters’ sons become potters and tinkers’ sons tinkers? And it seems to me the dictates
of fashion are as stringent as our traditions.
“On the whole, yes, but there is no
compulsion about it. I think what horrifies outsiders about Sparta is that it
is all enforced by law and custom and is so, well, brutal.”
“But it was Kallixenos who hurt you,”
Leonidas pointed out. “And Spartans aren’t really all the same. In fact, the
reasoning behind us all having a kleros of the same size and all dressing in
the same manner is that then the real differences—those of character rather than
mere wealth or station—are more evident. On the surface, Kallixenos is a
well-educated, well-mannered young man. I imagine that his good clothes and
good looks deceive many about his true nature.”
“Yes,” Lychos admitted; “but so do your
clothes and looks deceive, Leonidas. When we see you, muscular and tanned and
standing straight as a spear, we see only a stupid Spartan hoplite, but you are
far more subtle and complex than you appear to be.”
“I suppose we all are,” Leonidas
concluded. They left it at that and drifted off to sleep.
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DeleteAnother interesting and informative post, The excerpt from "A Peerless Peer" is thought provoking; with insights into a society that has long fascinated me. I hope the remainder of your day is great. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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DeleteHi Helena - am I really the first? What an honour! :-D For someone who puts classical mythology on a par with mother's milk I'm woefully ignorant about Spartan society - possibly because of a Catholic upbringing... such things not being too open when I was at school in the 1960s & early 70s ;-) With films like 300, it's good to see a resurgence in the culture of Ancient Greece and having scholarly authors like you writing accessible fiction, it can only be good for everyone to learn more about the true culture of ancients that have shaped our modern world. :-)
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Thanks, Sian. Just re-designed the cover so I especially appreciate you mentioning that! Hope you'll read the books one day.
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DeleteAnother Tour De Force, Helena. Your knowledge and research efforts are stunning. Best for today.
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DeleteI love history but have not read much on Sparta so i found this blog post very interesting. You have obviously done your research! Nice job.
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DeleteGood Morning Helena! I have enjoyed both of these excerpts, tremendously! Your writing, while informative, is also an enjoyable lesson on ancient Spartan society and culture.You make the character, Gorgo as relatable as any 21st century adolescent. I'm sure we will love "A Peerless Peer"! Have a Great Party Day!
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DeleteI would have hated to live during those times. lol! Thanks for sharing a glimpse of that world with us. :-)
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DeleteHi Helena, I really enjoyed the post. The time you spend researching an era really shines through in your writing. You can't fake that type of detail.
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DeleteSo I'm now in Addis, Abba, Ethiopia. How nice!! Its nice to meet you Helena and a chance for being educated on your culture. Thank you for having us.
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DeleteHi Helena - thanks again for this very interesting insight into the culture and mores of the ancient Spartans. They were a fascinating culture and city-state. Best of luck again with all your works! - MikeL
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DeleteInteresting post! You obviously have spent a lot of time researching the Spartan history.
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DeleteHi Helena! Sorry I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm so glad I stopped by - yet another fascinating and informative post! Thanks for sharing, take care, and have a wonderful week! :) ~Stephanie
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